How much is $100,000 Euros, like 50 bucks?
Brian
I'll rent my 30" for much cheaper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Santangeli" <psantangeli@No-Spam>
To: "'The Astronomy Connection'" <sf-bay-tac@No-Spam>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [TAC] [sct-user] 1m (40") telescope for sale! (fwd)
>
> Hey, I'd buy it, but 10 by 10 arcminutes is just too narrow for my uses.
I'll keep looking ;-)
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: P T Chambers [mailto:ptchamb@No-Spam]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:43 PM
> To: Astronomy Connection
> Subject: [TAC] [sct-user] 1m (40") telescope for sale! (fwd)
>
> OK, all we need is someone to come up with 100k euros/year for a couple of
> years. We could take turns going over to use it.
>
> That seems pretty cheap for all you get. however, there is food and
> shelter to be considered (at home LOL)
>
> ---------
> Phil Chambers [ptchamb@No-Spam] (S.F. Bay Area - Calif. USA)
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:05:45 +0100 (BST)
> From: Bob Tubbs <rnt20@No-Spam>
> Reply-To: sct-user@No-Spam
> To: sct-user@No-Spam
> Subject: [sct-user] 1m (40") telescope for sale!
>
> Hi,
>
> I noticed this 40 inch telescope was up for sale. It will
> probably be too expensive for a single private individual.
> It is located on the volvanic island of La Palma (similar to
> Mauna Kea, Hawaii but in the Atlantic) and in summer the
> astronomical seeing conditions are as good as Hawaii (ie
> as good as the best in the world).
>
> Details are attached in the following forwarded email!
>
> Bob
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:19:23 +0100 (BST)
> From: Rene Rutten <rgmr@No-Spam>
> To: ing_jkt@No-Spam
> Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: future use of the 1-m Kapteyn telescope
>
>
> ANNOUNCEMENT
>
> Call for expressions of interest for the future use of
> ------------------------------------------------------
> the 1-m Jacobus Kapteyn Telescope on La Palma
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Introduction
> ------------
> The 1-m Jacobus Kapteyn Telescope located at the world-class observatory
> site Roque de los Muchachos on the island of La Palma, Spain, will be
> taken out of service as a common-user facility as of August 2003.
> Instead, the telescope may be offered for use to paying interested
> parties. To date, this telescope has primarily served the astronomical
> communities in the United Kingdom, The Netherlands and Spain, but due
> to changing scientific priorities this telescope can be made available
> to the wider international scientific community, provided that the full
> operating cost is recovered.
>
> This announcement calls for expressions of interest from potentially
> intertested parties in the use of the telescope. Guidelines are set out
> below.
>
> Expressions of interest should reach the Director ING by September 5th,
> 2003.
>
>
> The telescope
> -------------
> The 1-m Jacobus Kapteyn Telescope (JKT) is equatorially mounted on a
> cross-axis mount. The telescope has a conventional f/15 Cassegrain
> focus. A wide-field f/8 focus is an alternative option.
>
> The JKT is located at an elevation of about 2400m, close to the highest
> point of the steep volcanic island of La Palma at the spanish
> Observatorio de Roque de los Muchachos. The telescope and has been in
> operation since 1984. A historic and pictoral overview of the JKT is
> posted at http://www.ing.iac.es/PR/jkt_info/.
>
> Although in operation for nearly 20 years, the telescope and instrument
> control systems have been well maintained and modernized continuously,
> experiencing technical down-time losses at no more than the 2-3% level.
> System operation takes place from a Unix console, while for data
> capture and reduction separate systems are in place. The telescope
> building includes office space and basic amenities. A more complete
> description of telescope functionality and operation may be found at
> http://www.ing.iac.es/Astronomy/telescopes/jkt/BASIC_GUIDE/ and
> http://www.ing.iac.es/Astronomy/observing/manuals/html_manuals/
> jkt_instr/jkt_jag/index.html
> The full system is easily operated by a single person from a
> dedicated control room. Full automation of telescope operation for
> remote control observation is a possibility but would require
> investments in upgrading the infrastructure.
>
> The telescope is routinely equipped with a state-of-the-art scientific
> quality CCD imager in the Cassegrain focus, with a field of view of
> 10 by 10 arcminutes. A large choice of filters is available.
> Infrastructure for data storage and automatic archiving is also
> available, as well as extensive software tools and computing
> infrastructure for advanced automated data processing.
>
> The telescope has remained competitive in its class and has been
> scientifically highly productive. To date the JKT has been operated
> and maintained by the Isaac Newton Group of Telescopes (ING), on
> behalf of the UK Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council
> (PPARC), the Netherlands Organization for Scientific Research (NWO),
> and the Spanish Astrophysics Institute of the Canary Islands (IAC).
> Apart from the JKT, the ING also operates the 2.5-m Isaac Newton
> Telescope and the 4.2-m William Herschel Telescope. The overall
> observatory site is operated by the IAC, and is home to a large and
> growing number of telescopes, including the 10-m GRANTECAN. The
> observatory is renowned for its generally very good observing
> conditions with highly transparent and dark skies, and excellent
> seeing conditions (see http://www.iac.es/gabinete/orm/). The
> observatory itself provides facilities for accommodation as well
> as engineering facilities for maintenance and repair, and for
> essential consumables.
>
>
> Management and operational constraints and models
> -------------------------------------------------
> For the telescope to remain operational and supported by the ING the
> full running cost will have to be financed by the interested parties.
> Only long-term (years) commitments to use the telescope will be
> considered under this announcement. For reasons of efficiency and cost
> effectiveness the telescope should be in operation at least 50% of the
> nights for a minimum of two years. This operational threshold could be
> shared between different users. Depending on the expressions of
> interest received, consortia could be created ad-hoc, or groups could
> combine their scientific objectives into a single operational plan.
> But within these general boundary conditions, ING is open to consider
> all possible astronomical modes of use of the telescope.
>
> Using the telescope as a training tool for university students would
> be accepted, but all else being equal scientific use would take priority.
>
> The existing CCD detector will be available for use at the telescope,
> but interested parties may also bring or develop their own instrument.
>
> Groups from anywhere in the world may express interest and will be
> considered on equal terms.
>
> Ownership of the telescope and infrastructure would remain with ING.
>
>
> Cost indication
> ---------------
> The agreed cost will scale with the level of service provided
> by the observatory, which again depends on how the telescope will be
> used. Hence a precise figure cannot be provided at this stage, but
> it is anticiapted to be in the region of 100,000 Euros per year for
> year-round use, depending of the service given by the observatory.
> This indicative cost would include consumables, basic system
> maintenance and problem solving on a best-efforts basis, but
> excludes night-time support, system enhancements, as well as any
> cost associated with the presence of observers at the telescope.
>
> It must be noted that under the international agreements that provide
> the foundation for the observatory, up to 25% of the observing time
> must be offered to the spanish or wider observatory community. The
> means to satisfying these agreements can be worked out through
> discussion with those expressing interest in using the JKT.
>
>
> Expressions of interest
> -----------------------
> Expressions of interest for the future use of the JKT should be sent,
> preferably by email to the address below. You will receive an
> acknowledgement of receipt.
>
> Your statement should include an indication of how you expect to use
> the telescope (i.e. for a specific long-term scientific programme, as
> part of a consortium, student training etc) and how you expect to
> acquire funding. Note that at this initial stage no firm commitments
> are requested.
>
> Expressions of interest should be received by September 5th. These
> will be reviewed by observatory management and the ING Board and
> subsequently taken forward for detailed discussion.
>
> Further enquiries can be obtained at the same address given below.
>
>
> Date: 1 July 2003
>
> Dr R G M Rutten
>
> Postal address:
> Isaac Newton Group of Telescopes
> Apartado de Correos 321
> E-38700 Santa Cruz de la Palma
> Spain
>
> email: rgmr@No-Spam
>
> tel: +34 922 425421 (direct)
> +34 922 425400 (switchboard)
> fax: +34 922 425408
>
>
>
> ***********************************************************************
> Dr. Rene G.M. Rutten - Director ING
> Isaac Newton Group of Telescopes tel: +34 922 425421 (direct)
> Apartado de Correos 321 tel: +34 922 425400 (switchboard)
> 38700 Santa Cruz de La Palma fax: +34 922 425408 (private)
> Islas Canarias fax: +34 922 425401 (central)
> SPAIN email: rgmr@No-Spam
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>
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