> Jeff G complained ad nauseum...
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> >I hate The Sky (paraphrase)
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> I wonder if this thread is troll material?
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Mark, the Hacker's Dictionary has this definition of a troll...
troll v.,n.
1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.
-- He doesn't seem to be doing this - people are responding sensibly to his serious, if emphatic, opinion... -- 2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." -- He seems frustrated with the tool, and he says why, but he is involved in the topic. It is also on-topic. And he's not disrupting a prior thread by hijacking it elsewhere... -- 3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS student. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners. -- I hope he isn't this - I remember these poor pitiful Berkeley grads doing this thankless task... ;-)So I don't think he's a troll or it's troll material - just has strong opinions against it. And I'm glad you like the Sky and express equally strong interesting opinions in favor. This way, I can listen to both sides and make up my mind as to the merit of the product - and isn't that what a good astro list is all about? Thanks. Lynne.
> Well... I like it. I has worked well for me for many years. The upgrade > prices are less than most other alternatives are new. I am familiar with > the few commands I need in order to have a pleasant evening. One can > update the catalogs if they so desire. > > I think this proves that there is a lot to be said for being first to > market with a good product (you are free to debate the relative value of > the word "good")... doing so captures customers long term. If I had the > choices back when I started that I do today, I would likely be > using Chris > Mariott's program (whatever its called)... I was mightily impressed with > what it did, but I did not want to relearn a bunch of commands. > Same with > MegaStar, except I find it clunky compared to The Sky... and I > hate how the > stars are sized (based on my trial of the program at the last > major upgrade). > > Jeff.... did you get out observing last new moon? > > Mark > > >