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Peter Natscher

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OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« on: November 24, 2016, 12:49:20 PM »
OI for Dinosaur Point next Thursday, December 1st. Four to five of us are planning to be there to kick off the Dino observing season.  Mag 6.2 skies and great southern horizon to catch all those southern fall season galaxies and arriving winter milky way objects.  Dress warmly for forecasted low 40's temperatures by midnight.

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2016, 01:02:30 PM »
If the weather holds, I may trek down there.  Shorter drive than Lake Sonoma.  Any difficulty leaving 11 or midnight?

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2016, 01:10:12 PM »
That's up to consensus of the group and the attending gatekeeper.  All attendees must be escorted out past the locked gate by a gatekeeper and that trip is usually when everyone leaves together.

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2016, 01:25:26 PM »
OK.  Thanks.

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 02:19:50 PM »
Specifically in answer to your query, Wags -
"Any difficulty leaving 11 or midnight?"
None.
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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2016, 02:21:02 PM »
And Peter's not kidding - he, Dave Cooper, Joe Bob and Mark McCarthy are all meditating on it mightily.
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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2016, 09:32:30 AM »
Thanks Jamie - I'll watch the weather.

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2016, 01:51:15 AM »
I'm off to New Mexico to visit my daughter next day on early flight so I'm out.

I encourage any others to go for this (given weather is a go) as Dino is a paved lot, plenty of space and a great sky with only exception being low to the east.   Great south and north and no nearby trees to block that object you were trying to track as it 'hit' a tree.   PLUS if you are lucky you get a coyote serenade!   

If this is your first fall/winter night out do dress really warm including warm shoes and head cover.  I'm sold on sky pants and other sky cloths and you will be ok.
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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2016, 12:19:44 PM »
The clear sky chart: http://www.cleardarksky.com/c/Dino_CAkey.html?1 and other ones in the bay area show winds of 12 to 16mph Thursday night. Is that too windy to observe? How about to image?

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2016, 01:38:56 PM »
This forecast for San Luis Reservoir on Dec. 1st looks like will feel pretty cold with 44°F and 15MPH wind gusts.

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2016, 02:35:46 PM »
The CSC forecast is for poor seeing and 12-16 MPH wind gusts.  Not comfortable at low 40's temperatures, wind chill will feel like 38°F.  I'm more concerned about the poor seeing forecast.
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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2016, 05:17:21 PM »
I'm still planning to go to Dino 12/1 -- if Jamie will open it.  I have weekend plans so can only get out 12/1.  Will do low power viewing and dress in ski pants & down jacket...
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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2016, 06:25:32 PM »
If the forecast doesn't improve by Thursday noon. I'll observe on Saturday up at Fremont Peak, in the FPOA area, with a better forecast of warmer temps and little jet stream effect, no wind, and better seeing for my 16" telescope.  The 3-day-old Moon will set by 8:30pm.

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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2016, 09:44:31 PM »
Jamie will be at Dinosaur Point well before sunset tomorrow, that being Thursday, 1 December.
Also McCarthy, seriously, people will tell you I have a very long track record of showing up where and when I say I will.
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Re: OI - Dinosaur Point, Thursday, December 1st
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2016, 09:59:24 PM »
Those CSC charts are pretty and nicely visually tailored for remote places, on the basis of very skimpy data. Our forecasting systems are built around airports. The nearest places to Dinosaur Point, for instance, that get actual forecasts, are Gilroy and Los Baños, and weather in both those towns are often very different from what they are at Dino.

Same for all our hilltop spots, Coe, the Peak, Pinnacles, Montebello, Lake Sonoma, etc. The weather forecasts we see are not for hilltops.

Bill Arnett, the nineplanets.org guy, said a while back about the CSC, ""It seems to be VERY local. And I don't trust it anyway."
Far better to get out of the house and go see what it's like in the dark.
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