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CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« on: August 05, 2016, 02:41:58 PM »
I realize Calstar is still quite a ways off, but its directly in the path of the massive smoke from the Sobrantes fire now raging in Big Sur, at nearly 54000 acres burned as of this morning.  they are talking 100% 'containment' by the end of August, but that doesn't mean its dead cold and out, just that they've stopped it from advancing.

What happens to Calstar if the area is still under heavy smoke and haze?
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 09:15:28 PM by John Pierce »

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Sobrantes fire
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2016, 02:35:25 PM »
Calstar goes on despite the conditions, but it's still 8 weeks away...

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Sobrantes fire
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2016, 06:57:50 PM »
SOBERANES fire.  This is at Dobermans Creek, south of Carmel, Garrapata State Park.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Sobrantes fire
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2016, 08:15:38 PM »
SOBERANES fire.  This is at Dobermans Creek, south of Carmel, Garrapata State Park.

thats where it started.  as of this AM, it was over 55000 acres, 87 square miles, and the smoke is all OVER south monterey county.  however, its now 40% controlled, so yeha, probably by the end of september, it will be history.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Sobrantes fire
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2016, 08:23:33 PM »
Saturday afternoon, August 6th, here's the satellite view of the smoke.
http://go.nasa.gov/2aKwBUB

you can move the slider at the bottom back day by day to see the view each day going back to July 22 when this fire broken out.    the red dots are satellite IR fire detection, thats where its burning the hottest.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Sobrantes fire
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2016, 08:51:37 PM »
LOL!!!  I just love autocorrect.  Doberman Creek 😋

I was just correcting the name of the fire, if anyone was going to look it up.  It's already changed my observing plans.  Hopefully it'll be out before CalStar, I'd expect it will be.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2016, 09:17:10 PM »
ohgeez, didn't even notice I'd misspelt it.   haha.   when we lived in Pacific Grove/Monterey in the 80s, we regularlly used to go down to Soberanes Point, and sit on that bench up on the saddle to watch the whales and/or sunset.


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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2016, 04:32:12 PM »
oof, new fire broke out yesterday near Naciemento, and is smoking out the area...
http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/1389

http://go.nasa.gov/2b9vuht

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 01:27:34 PM »
Question:  What to do if there is still a fire?
Answer:    I'll bring stuff for s'mores, somebody else bring shots.
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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2016, 02:15:09 PM »
You guys. We're 6 weeks out. Go find something else to obsess about. Meanwhile Marko, do please remember to bring chocolate.
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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2016, 09:43:42 PM »
the Chimney Fire (Lake Naciemento) is within 3 miles of Whisper Canyon now, 27000 acres and only 35% contained.

Current ETA for containment of the Soberanes Fire (Big Sur) is September 30th, now 85000 acres and 60% contained, but essentially burning out of control on the southern front deep in the Ventana Wilderness.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 02:59:58 PM »
the latest map has the chimney fire within 4300' of Whisper Canyon.   There may not be a campground left.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2016, 02:34:16 PM »
aw crap.   https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=37.055177%2C-120.454102&spn=17.505593%2C18.720703&hl=en&msa=0&z=5&source=embed&ie=UTF8&mid=1ZpcZ8OMZh1G1XwRmt9GaCwH6f-g    (zoom in on the lake naciemento/san antonio area, switch to satellite view),

looks like Whisper Canyon got overrun by the fire :(((    hopefully everyone evacced OK,   whadda bummer.


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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 04:31:09 PM »
Wow, what a complete waste.   To think some dork started it with a campfire.   Total shame.   Those Whisper Canyon owners are such nice people.  Total bummer.    I fear a close Astro Friend who has a house right there and hosts astro get togethers also is to loose his home today.    Total shame.
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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2016, 04:46:29 PM »
the Soberanes fire in Big Sur is the one started by a campfire.   Cause of the Chimney fire is as of yet unknown...   See http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/1389 for updates.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2016, 05:30:33 PM »
Whisper Canyon is definitely behind the fire line. I still have not gotten word from the camp manager on what the latest status is, but I received an email from WC  on Sunday afternoon that everyone was told to evacuate. I'm sure WC management doesn't know any more than we do at this point. We will have to wait and see.

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Re: CalStar and the smoke from the Soberanes fire
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2016, 07:32:05 AM »
Has anyone called the Whisper Canyon people??
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WHISPER CANYON UPDATE
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 08:57:15 AM »
Hi everyone,

I just got word from Jennifer at Whisper Canyon. The camp survived without damage although there is a lot of cleanup to do. A neighbor was able to take some pictures and send them to Larry and he posted them on the Whisper Canyon blog:

http://whispercanyon.blogspot.com

Charlie