LOL!!! Elitism? "Them's fightin words!".... Well, not really.
So, here's the thing. Eventually, for some of us, getting the most optimal skies ends up being the driving factor. Fremont Peak is an ok site, and serves well for lots of folks. But where I go on new moons (and I haven't gone very much the last few years, admittedly) is significantly darker, and the results in the eyepiece are proof. Darker, higher, steadier, is better. So, show me a site that supports 35 cars, is relatively easy to get to (like Fremont Peak) and I'd love to see a big star party there every new moon.
Where is that?
To enjoy my hobby to the fullest, I'm driven to the best site I can find. But, I'm also interested in the fun of friends, and lots of them, out observing together. So, what to do? Hey... I'll suggest 3rd Quarter observing (which I haven't done in years) at a place that's maybe not so optimal for me, but others would think is "great".
At least its a solution.
Elitist! I've been called lots of things....
And, final thought. There are LOTS of old TACos, with lots of experience, who are capable of putting out OI's and INVITING newbies out (and telling them how easy it is to come, what to brings, etiquette, etc.). I'll do 3rd Q with the group. Honestly, I'm not going to pick up many faint Sh-2 targets at Coe, but I'm very interested in being part of a revitalized TAC, when I can.
Who is going to step up? Look at GSSP. It began as a little group going to Mt. Lassen. Over the years, others became involved, and now its a great annual event. TAC in the Bay Area can be too, but its not up to one person to make it happen, whether its me, you, Jamie, Rogelio, Turley, Ozer, or.... everyone needs to help.
Mark said: "I agree. First to answer your last question. In my case, I observe on private property now, and the site holds no more than about five people. So, that's a big limiting factor compared to the old days at Fremont Peak, Coe and Dinosaur Point".
So there it is. How can you expect past TACO's and newbies to embrace TAC when a few of you are privatizing your own observing interests at your own location. That's elitism. In the 'old days', everyone was together for better or worse. It was a group with common interests.